Guess what: I wrote that at 11pm on the 26th and they responded that night too. is another medical director listed. Why? After my review, would I recommend that QC Kinetix site to a patient of mine who lives in Austin? The good news is that theyre somewhat closer to the most rigorous academics, he said. Change happens fast and always makes for a dynamic environment. So for example, a doctor who has board certification and additional training in interventional spine would never offer to cover a clinic performing vein care. A proper exam for this type of issue would have taken 20-30 minutes at least not just a few minutes. All rights reserved. Vitals states that he also works in Webster, Texas. However, the experiences are personal to those particular patients, and may not necessarily be representative of all of our patients. If you have questions or comments about this blog post, please email us at [emailprotected]. Inpatient services are those that are provided in a hospital setting, while outpatient services are those that are provided in a doctors office or other outpatient facility. Is that a thing in spinal orthobiologics? To address what physicians know is a quality problem in high volume practices, some doctors have begun to rebel. I had bone on bone in one knee. Im assuming hes covering the Houston clinic. The second oddity? No wonder the insurance companies do not pay for this procedure. I wont be spending any more money but i willing to spend more time. On his Linkedin page, hes listed as the regional medical director for Doctors Making House Calls. But critics suggest the hospitals are exploiting desperate patients and profiting from trendybut unproventreatments. Theres no solid evidence that the commercial injections used today spur tissue growth, Piuzzi said. If you have been treated elsewhere prior to your visit to QC Kinetix, it would be very helpful if you would bring in any diagnostic study films or reports, as we would both like to review those reports and avoid repeating any tests unnecessarily. Why is a physicians assistant listed in this role and not a physician expert in regenerative medicine? However, it is important to read the fine print carefully, as these plans may also have higher copays, coinsurance and deductibles. The employee I spoke to at the Nail Salon says that the Cryology site shown is no longer there and that she thinks this is now a QC Kinetix office, but shes not sure. The people here were were kind and professional, but the therapy has not worked for me. A subreddit for Charlotte, North Carolina. $5000 for 2 visits!!? Meaning: As far as who is concerned, the physician subspecialist and the patient believe that the mid-level (NOT a doctor) is the one who would have performed the procedure. According to Pourcho, these instructions make sure that tissues are repaired with the appropriate type of cell, and so you dont get, say, eyeball in your hand., Knoepfler, who has studied stem cell biology for two decades, said he has never heard of any possibility of growing eyeball or other random tissues in your hand. Knoepfler, who wrote about the video in February on his blog,The Niche, said, Theres no way that the adult brain could send that kind of stem cells anywhere in the body.. I enjoyed my time at QC because I was rewarded for my efforts . My mother has suffered from the problems of Osteoarthritis for many years now. This has been a life changing experience for me. Medicare does not cover all types of physical therapy. It could be number of things and several of the solutions may be less than $13k. Well 9 months later, I found myself in excruciating pain, could not raise my right shoulder without moaning in pain; and could not perform my job in tbe manner necessary to be fully proficient. Book an appointment today to see how we can jump start your healing process. Click Registration to join us and share your expertise with our readers.). Already making progress only 8 weeks into treatment - totally worth every NON-SURGICAL, NO DOWNTIME minute! It looks like he did an osteopathic residency in internal medicine and hence this board is listed on his SC license page, but not recognized by the American Board of Medical Specialties. This site is in a medical office building and lists Ashley Ascencio, DO as the medical director. Your guess is as good as mine. I came in with knee pain and started care with QC Kinetix. It looks like she only did an internship year. I do want to add the the staff at the Boynton Beach, Fl locations has been very friendly from day 1. of course they still hurt from time to time, but my quality of life is excellent now. All of our providers know that if they have mid-levels (we have none in Colorado), that they are not permitted to see Regenexx patients. However after my mother spoke to her Neurologist, her neurologist Dr. Subramony stated "the stem cell approach QC Kinetix does is still sketchy as we cannot connect them the same way the brain normally does." She tried meds, chiropractic care and did get some movement back. When considering complaint information, please take into account the company's size and volume of transactions, and understand that the nature of complaints and a firm's responses to them are often more important than the number of complaints. That should have been a huge red flag, but when you are in pain, you want relief and to get it without surgery is pretty appealing. Now we are $8000 out of pocket and still no relief. It worked. Not really as thats just taking the plasma from the blood. He was then asked basic questions about his issue and then a quick poke and prod exam was performed without an ultrasound being performed. In October, theFederal Trade Commissionfined stem cell clinics millions of dollars for deceptive advertising, noting that the companies claimed to be able to treat or cure autism, Parkinsons disease and other serious diseases. A Guide to Benefits and Risks. I got responses like (Im paraphrasing), All of our providers perform the procedures they are licensed to perform or when I asked if the mid-levels did the initial evaluations and the physician medical director performed some procedures while the mid-levels performed others, I never got a straight answer. I spoke with Tyler to get more information about QC Kinetix. I was told I wasn't the only one fooled by this 'snake oil salesman!' Hair loss is a common issue that can be caused by a variety of factors, including genetics, aging, hormonal changes, and certain medical conditions. Seem like they're trying to intimidate you into paying even though they have no legal way to charge you. Patients typically paymore than $700a treatment for platelets and up to$5,000for fat and bone marrow injections. Anyone going through a chemotherapy or radiation therapy regimen currently, If your pain comes from a total joint replacement, If you have kidney failure and require dialysis. We do not claim, and you should not assume, that all users will have the same experiences. The place he visited didnt really look like a medical office and was only open 1 day a week or so. Doctors at the Mayo Clinic try to provide stem cell treatments and similar therapies responsibly, Shapiro said. A scientific researcher extracts the RNA from embryonic stem cells in a laboratory. In a joint statement, Pourcho and Swedish defended the online video. is also listed at Infinite Wellness, a chiropractic clinic in Roanoake, Virginia. These plans often include additional coverage, such as vision and dental, and may offer lower out-of-pocket costs. A 2016 review in theJournal of Bone and JointSurgery concluded that the value and effective use of cell therapy in orthopaedics remain unclear. The following year, a review in theBritish Journal of Sports Medicineconcluded, We do not recommend stem cell therapy for knee arthritis. Meaning, searching the US National Library of Medicine for plasma therapy lumbar, there is nothing at all published. We are pleased to announce that kanetix.ca has changed its name to ratesdotca. But the marketing video wasnt filmed by a little-known operator. We clearly lay out the options, plan a course of treatment, disclose all costs and possible outcomes. Knees have been hurting ever since I started playing soccer again after 3 yrs. I have no complaints on that. Meaning that injecting this stuff at L5-S1 may have ZERO effect on his neuropathy symptoms. Depending on which Medigap letter plan you enrolled in, you may have zero cost-sharing to pay for Stem Cell Therapy. NO xrays or MRI to see how extensive my issues were, just their word. I can use pruning shears without pain, however, my worst finger flairs . She heard of this treatment from a radio ad and went in for a "free" consultation. QC Kinetix had exactly zero franchise locations open in 2020. This is an x-ray guided procedure that requires course work only available through the Interventional Orthobiologics Foundation. This is something that was confirmed to me by Tyler, that non-physicians could own and operate a QC Kinetix site. According to the patient, the mid-level provider (NOT a doctor) in the clinic never looked at his MRI, which shows a severe grade 2 spondylolisthesis (slipped vertebra) irritating his spinal nerves. The facts: Stem cell therapies may offer the potential to treat diseases or conditions for which few treatments exist. Meaning they have about half the training of most doctors and about 1/3 of the training as many super-specialists. A2017 studyof PRP found it relieved knee pain slightly better than injections of hyaluronic acid. Although doctors usually need preapproval to treat patients with human cells, the FDA has carved out ahandful of exceptions,as long as the cells meet certain criteria, said Barbara Binzak Blumenfeld, an attorney who specializes in food and drug law at Buchanan Ingersoll & Rooney in Washington. Great place to work! QC Kinetix is a concierge medicine that offers tailored treatment plans for We do not bill any insurance as this is not covered by Medicare or any Qc Kinetix Covered By Insurance. She knows for sure she is being ripped off. This morning well dissect this treatment plan to learn about the differences between a physician expert trying to help someone and a sales operation. Meaning, quantity-based practices see many patients per hour, often 20-40 patients a day per provider. The QC Kinetix team is awesome to work with! His Linkedin page says thats where he works and doesnt mention QC Kinetix? I did get about 50% pain relief but had been hopeful for more. (Note: Is this article not meeting your expectations? I echo the sentiments of most of these comments, I went in with high hopes; especially since the Hilton Head Island representative told me if it didnt work, he would refund my 7400.00! not a doctor) and then I would either see the mid-level for my procedure or I would see Dr. Ascencio based on which package I needed. Medicare will cover 80% of the cost of most physical therapy services, so the patient is responsible for the remaining 20%. Most of the patients do not get a regenerative [stem cell] procedure, Shapiro said. Four months after the injections, he says, he was pain-free and has since gone on a 40-mile hike. For example, what is the role of a physicians assistant or a nurse practitioner in regenerative medicine? Rickert said its easy to see why hospitals are eager to get in the game. For example, for Tyler Vail to be the Director of Regenerative Medicine we should find publications on orthobiologics linked to his name, I found none. Its an out-of-pocket, cash-on-the-barrel economy, Turner said. ! document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Proudly powered by WordPress All content, including text, graphics, images and information, contained on or available through this web site is for general information purposes only. I received therapy from QC Kinetix. Your email address will not be published. There is no significant downtime after the treatments themselves, but full results of the regenerative medicine protocol are not realized for 6-9 months. As such, the testimonials on the site are not intended, nor should they be construed, as any guarantee of a successful treatment outcome. My frame of reference is running, so pretty similar to soccer. Depending on the type of service received, the patient may be required to pay a copayment, coinsurance or a deductible. Same with Dr. Schaffer, we should find many research publications on stem cells or PRP and none exist. While steroid injections are a popular way of treating joint pain, they are not a permanent solution. Much of this QC Kinetix review will surround what in the physician world are called mid-levels. Does your local pain clinic have age restrictions? Buyer beware!. According to Google, Richard Schaffer, Jr, M.D. But Knoepfler said the guests on the video make several unbelievable claims. Published on May 7, 2022 I've blogged a few times about a clinic chain run by mid-levels offering low-level regenerative medicine care and charging top dollar. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The number of stem cells in fat and bone marrow injections is extremely small, he said. Yeah that's what threw me off, they went straight to arthritis after a brief examination. This operation is nothing but a scam. Stating they are willing to extend treatments to help me with my problem. Meaning, they dont have the basic background in this area of orthopedics and MSK therapies. It covers a variety of medical services, including some physical therapies. After some research, the first difference from anything else I had seen is that this is a rapidly expanding clinic chain primarily run and staffed by PAs and NPs. As the Chief Medical officer for a large network of expert physicians that use interventional orthobiologics to help patients and the employees of Fortune 500 companies avoid the need for invasive orthopedic surgery, part of my job is to know whats happening out there at all times. 22. The staff is great and the Dr's will even call you on their days off or any time. I did ask him personally about this and he stated that he had taken a regenerative medicine course at A4M that I have critiqued on this blog. Lets check this out by seeing what would happen if Dr. Schafer had to drive from Raleigh, NC to Charleston, SC to handle an emergency at that clinic. As a bonus, doctors dont have to wrangle with insurance companies, which view the procedures asexperimentaland largelydont cover them. I called the Ashville site and made an effort to book an appointment with Dr. Schaeffer. The upshot? Due Date: On demand. When considering whether to use Medicare to pay for QC Kinetix treatments, it is important to compare the benefits and costs of different plans. For example, we need to treat patients in all sorts of places where we dont yet have coverage from our 70 US clinics. At least30 million Americanshave the most common form of arthritis, with diagnoses expected to soar as the population ages. As such, the testimonials on the site are not intended, nor should they be construed, as any guarantee of a successful treatment outcome. Insurance companies consider most instances of stem cell therapy to be experimental and will not cover the costs. This patients doctor contacted me with the following message about the above bill: Hes a smart guy, and skedaddled outta there when he smelled the ________. In addition, none of the physicians or PAs would be qualified to take the course that would teach how to perform this complex procedure. However, its important to understand what is covered by Medicare and what is not. dont do it. You are encouraged to confirm any information obtained from or through this web site with other sources, and review all information regarding any medical condition or treatment with your licensed health care provider. I was told that instead only the nurse practitioner was available. Performance is rewarded in any company that expects the growth of it's employees to match the growth of the company. Even down to the pelvic needle llol. Patient reviews and testimonials on this site should not be interpreted as a statement on the effectiveness of our treatments for anyone else. If you're looking for a less invasive alternative to surgery, you've come to the right place. Hence, if theres a viable clinic option out there to refer patients where we have no network doctor, I need to know where those physicians are and how well theyre trained. Lets go over those. BBB Business Profiles generally cover a three-year reporting period. I went to the Raleigh clinic. Doximity has him listed in Asheville, North Carolina. But before he did they were able to come up with this boilerplateplan within 10 mins of him stepping in the door. QC Kinetix is thrilled to be partnering with the NFL's all-time leading rusher to introduce one of the fastest-growing medical specialties to people in need of pain relief. Whats the actual diagnosis based on this MRI and his physician specialist treating provider? Coming back from down time or an injury definitely gives me aches and pains that aren't there when I'm well trained. We do offer different payment options for your . They agreed and offered her $3500 refund. They draw blood from you then place it in a device that separates the rich platelets in your drawn blood then re-inject this into your problem joint. Its lucrative. In desperation to be out of pain, she signed up with QCKinetix. Copyright Regenexx 2023. They gave him 6 more months of shots beyond what the program was because his outcome was so poor. Pros. While that could have something to do with his low back nerves being irritated by the spondylolisthesis (slipped vertebra), it may have nothing to do with it at all. While it was possible to see Dr. Schaefer, it would depend on which package the clinic thought I needed as he was only there on an intermittent basis. Again, people there were really very nice, but it turned out to be a total waste of money for us and I am facing knee replacement the end of the year. Please Listen!! I now can stand up without any pain. First, the mantra who, what, why, and where applies. A Comprehensive Review. At QC Kinetix, we practice "Concierge Medicine." He also wouldnt qualify to take courses through the IOF, a subspeciality professional organization in Interventional Orthobiologics. ", You can find the review here: https://www.google.com/search?q=qc+kinetix+&sxsrf=AOaemvITu_wyEMkyku_D_wzheBCnc2_T9A%3A1643303587471&ei=o9LyYd6dHMiGwbkPtbyxsAI&ved=0ahUKEwie-9r0ttL1AhVIQzABHTVeDCYQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=qc+kinetix+&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBAgjECcyBAgjECcyBAgjECcyEwguEIAEEIcCELEDEMcBEK8BEBQyCggAEIAEEIcCEBQyCwguEIAEEMcBEK8BMgoILhDHARCvARBDMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyCAgAEIAEEMkDOgcIIxCwAxAnOgcIABBHELADSgUIPBIBMkoECEEYAEoECEYYAFCdBVidBWCBCGgCcAJ4AIABmwGIAZsBkgEDMC4xmAEAoAEByAEJwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz. That could help, but that depends on where as well discuss below. Paid $7,000. But just because something is legal doesnt make it ethical.. Upon posting my review, the CEO of QC Kinetix reached out to me. They can also help reduce out-of-pocket costs for physical therapy visits. Some also mandate a maximum number of mid-levels that can be supervised by each doctor and some dont. Its the poor mans approach to biotechnology.. Finally, prolotherapy can be helpful in tightening ligaments, which is consistent with what a mid-level (NOT a doctor) could do with a simple blind or ultrasound guide injection. Cash, personal check or credit card are accepted forms of payment. Patients may be required to obtain pre-authorization from their doctor before receiving treatment. Our focus has been on improving the quality of life of people with MSK pain using natural biologic approaches that include concentrating the body's own healing factors then placing them into areas of pain so that they can better heal and repair inflamed tissues in need. Florida resident Kathy Walsh, 61, said she wasted nearly $10,000 on stem cell and platelet injections at a Miami clinic, hoping to avoid knee replacement surgery. two shots in to the steps. We have no data that A2M or plasma will help. Liz Szabo, Kaiser Health News If you have a Medicare Supplement, the above-mentioned coinsurance would be covered as well as the cost-sharing under Part A. That consists of: What does this treatment plan look like to an expert in this space? Prolotherapy could help, but in my experience, once the slipped vertebra gets this bad, it usually doesnt move the needle. they said its our choice if we want the treatment or not but we will be paying no matter what. The testimonials on this site reflect the real-life experiences and opinions of patients of QC Kinetix. I am now starting treatment on my shoulder because of the great results I experienced on my knee issue. We are now taking legal action. Maybe 1 or 2? Our patient coordinator, medical providers and physicians, reached out to Mr. ********* several times to help him, he will be coming back into our clinics for additional treatments. Before receiving treatment, it is important for patients to understand the requirements for Medicare coverage. *In Canada, trademark(s) of the International Association of Better Business Bureaus, used under License. Patients may be required to pay a copayment for each visit to a physical therapist. Sometimes called the body's "master cells," stem cells are the cells . I wish that I could add the x-ray that shows my husband knee, but if you go on their website for the Liberty location, you will get the full picture. Go see an actual orthopedist before you try something like this. Just on the OFF chance they might work. In my 50 years I have made some poor purchases but this is without question the stupidest thing I have ever done. I have to say that this was an interesting 15-minute phone call. What's Fishbowl Ask a Question 5.0 Current Employee, less than 1 year Love it here Oct 8, 2022 - Patient Care Coordinator in Memphis, TN Recommend CEO Approval Business Outlook Pros Im not familiar with it, but it seems odd theyd slap a price tag on something if theyre not sure what it is or caused by. If they dont get them from us, they will get them somewhere else.. Thanks. Cost. Again, a highly trained interventional spine expert using fluoroscopy guidance could inject the following structures: However, a mid-level (NOT a doctor) could only generally inject about half of these structures. For doctors and hospitals, stem cells are easy money. Patients may also be required to pay a coinsurance amount, which is a percentage of the total cost of the service. The person listed as the company medical director is Richard Shaffer, M.D. And I can walk up stairs like Im brand new. I suffer from extreme pain in my hands and was trying to avoid surgery. Meaning, doctors who are actual specialists in interventional orthobiologics have their own practices and in my direct experience, would never permit their licenses to be used to supervise a distant mid-level. Do you know how much it would've been without insurance? We currently only treat patients suffering from pain, discomfort, or lack of mobility from various conditions. Heres my summary of why: The good news is that I have other non-Regenexx providers in Austin where I would refer patients based on the fact that these are physician-owned and operated clinics and these doctors have specific expertise in this area and are focused on regenerative medicine. The testimonials on this site reflect the real-life experiences and opinions of patients of QC Kinetix. We do offer affordable payment plans with approved credit and your consultation is FREE. Try to find a doctor who specializes in sports medicine and is preferably active themselves. 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